[damiante]

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

[chongli]

Discoverability and smallness are at odds. This problem isn’t specific to the internet. That quaint, beautiful postcard town does not remain so once it’s been discovered. Eternal September happens everywhere.

[mmazing]

> Discoverability and smallness are at odds.

Is it really true on the internet though? omg.lol could presumably stay "small-appearing" and "quaint" and have millions of users. How could you really tell the difference?

If it were all indexed you could drill down and find people who share your interests, that doesn't necessarily ruin the website, yeah?

[OkayPhysicist]

For published works (say, a blog), discoverability is probably a good thing. For communities, however, with many-to-many communication (forums, etc.), discoverability is an antifeature. Community building requires some degree of common ground, which obscurity naturally filters for.

The other downside of mass-popularity is that above a certain scale, your community becomes a target. Both for individual bad actors (spammers, vandals, etc.) and for the apex predators of the small community world, commercial interests. Look at Maker Fair transitioning from a relatively niche convention of people showing off their cool stuff they made, and some miscellaneous sponsors and vendors looking to appeal to those people, to an over-commercialized affair with a thousand people trying to sell you a 3D printer, because that's the big moneymaker.

Community norms are what makes spaces worth inhabiting, and they just don't scale well.

[moralestapia]

Nah, you just need a (not ad oriented) search engine.

Things could continue to be small and niche, we just a way to find them.

[8372049]

You mean kagi.com?

[culopatin]

How did we find forums back in the day? Someone said something somewhere and you looked it up. It was less discoverable but less… volatile, because it was just “your” kind of people there, not millions of random people who found a hashtag

[ClimaxGravely]

I wonder about that myself as someone who grew up on this.

I used webcrawler at the very beginning and I'm probably looking that things through rose lenses but I found what I wanted back then. I think back then in some ways it was easier to find your community because SRO and the like wasn't a thing back then.

The years where I found my niche forums benefited me much more than my college days.

[acegopher]

Check out the Kagi Small Web: https://blog.kagi.com/small-web

[mtillman]

Plug/thanks for https://ooh.directory/ for keeping the dream alive.

[hooby]

Might be a tangent - but is more discoverability actually desirable in this case?

Could it possibly preserve that "old web" style of interaction, if it becomes a global phenomenon that everyone uses? Or does this only work as long as it stays a little hidden niche, that most people don't know about, and will never find?

Or in other words - can something feel like "the old web" (which was early adopters and enthusiasts only) - if it's frequented by everyone?

You love the idea of smaller communities - but how can they stay small?

[treyd]

Fwiw, many feeds provided by Mastodon instances are available as RSS. Same for other Fedi software, like WriteFreely.

[082349872349872]

have you tried https://search.marginalia.nu ?

[xhrpost]

https://home.omg.lol/directory