[atticora]

> It's easy to cast them as bad guys because they were defeated.

It's also easy because they were the aggressors. The attack on Pearl Harbor when we were at peace does not leave a lot of room for nuance. We were not their oppressors, we were just in the way of their conquests.

[aamoyg]

Well we stopped selling them oil, so they must have framed us as oppressing their expansion

[KRAKRISMOTT]

I am sure the middle easterns were the bad guys during the Gulf war too.

[aamoyg]

I should have put the /s tag in my post. And the Gulf War wasn't even our war to get involved in.