[FirmwareBurner]

> I honestly think it is just because the people there really care

Sure, but from my experience, for devs and engineers to "just care" about the product, they also need to be well paid, respected and empowered.

Try seeing how many engineers care when they're overworked and underpaid.

[thorncorona]

Nobody working at microsoft can really be considered underpaid. Maybe the janitor, but engs? They are paid more than enough to care.