[visarga]

> I think using data that you don't have the copyrights to train AI is theft.

There are public domain works you can use and copyright doesn't protect ideas. It protects expression of ideas, so getting "just the ideas" without the expression is ok.

[jterrys]

Right. Public domain is stuff that doesn't have exclusive IP rights. You can do with that what you want.

The problem is that "expression of ideas" in the realm of AI is akin to plagiarism by human standards, because its a literal copying of the source material blended together. I couldn't recite you the entire plot of the Odyssey off the top of my head literally, but AI can, because it has the source material. We just tell it to do funny ha-ha things so its okay.