[_jcyi]

I've never agreed to that specific deal at any ACYE place. If that's what they want to do, and they're clear about it up front, that's fine. If they're willing to charge a premium for waste, that's less ideal than a broader menu which avoids the waste, but at least it's an option.

What they shouldn't do is arbitrarily add new terms to the deal after the fact. Customers should be allowed to make an informed decision. If I know that they'll kick me out for eating, I can decide whether to leave or stick around and eat later. If they just kick me out without warning in the middle of my meeting/event/whatever, no one is happy and they look like assholes.

In practice, these are questions I would ask before paying and sitting down, but that shouldn't be expected. The business should either state its terms up front, or provide an early warning when they notice the behavior and offer a full or partial refund. Waiting until someone has eight pounds of rice piled up and then suddenly kicking them out is a ridiculous escalation, and they'd only lose more money when the customer rightfully disputed the charge.

All of this isn't to say that the guys in the story weren't necessarily in the wrong. What I am saying is that we simply don't know. Demanding they be kicked out is making an awful lot of assumptions. We have no idea why they were there or what their interactions with the staff may have been. As other comments have pointed out, there's a good chance that they were in fact charged for the leftovers.

[michaelmrose]

Every economic situation with edge cases struggles to deal with malicious abuse of terms. For instance buying power tools to do a job using them hard for weeks then returning them in a non-saleable condition. Buying a tv for the Superbowl. Food waste all you can eat.

The commonality is willingness to flagrantly violate social norms, entitlement, and lack of empathy.

What I've learned from such situations is that subtlety is wasted and tolerating misbehavior leads to encouraging more from that party and others. Conversely there is near zero cost or even a benefit to be had from squelching it. Such customers are on average worth less than nothing. They will consume half your support trying to screw you and all of your profit if you let them.

Saying no is even surprisingly trouble free when you have been consistent and only becomes a struggle when you have a policy of sometimes given in.

The hardest behaviors to extinguish are those which sometimes pay off. See arcades, lottery, and slot machines.

The worst polict to adopt is forcing front line employees to be the enforcers while managers make exceptions. This leads to the strategy of constant escalation.

The best counter is you can speak to a manager but he'll give you the same answer then do it when need be.

[_jcyi]

That's all fine, and I wouldn't dispute any of that. I'm just surprised at the anger here over a situation where we have essentially no information other than that some guys ate sushi without the rice. If they had the restaurant's permission, then that's between them and the restaurant.

[Dylan16807]

"Can't believe they weren't kicked out" is not exactly anger.

And the word "guilt" is being tied to the hypothetical version where we do have the information.