[orangeboats]

Can't tell whether this is trolling or serious. Breaking the end-to-end principle has had profound effects on the Internet as a whole for the last 2 decades, centralization being the most obvious one.

[teddyh]

I used to keep a copy of this paper with me: <https://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoe...>

[alacode]

Trolling? No. NAT breaks something? No. IPv6 breaks privacy at a minimum and probably opens our devices to security issues. IPv6 is what's broken.

[orangeboats]

Citation needed on "breaking privacy". You have at least 2^64 IPv6 addresses per household, cycle through them and stop worrying about IP tracking.

Oh, and I can give citation on how NAT breaks something. Until the day we can magically remove application-level gateways[0] I consider NAT a fundamentally broken hack.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-level_gateway

[wredcoll]

That's not how any of this works.