Ask HN: Are we witnessing the death of coding bootcamps?

[codingknight]

There's been conversations on Twitter/X that bootcamps are running out of business and shutting down for various reasons some including the fact that people are realising a big chuck of them are not worth it anymore.

Gergely Orosz thinks and I quote

"Many bootcamps are (and will be) going out of business as we are entering a time when college grads with years of study, plus internships, are finding it hard to get entry-level dev jobs.

Bootcamps were thriving at a time when there was a shortage of even new CS grads. Pre-2022"

What are your thoughts on this and what's the better alternative for folks learning to code?

[syndicatedjelly]

Good riddance, many of them were predatory and few prepared their trainees for a successful CS career.

There is not enough rigor in software engineering - see the vast amount of crap software running critical systems everywhere. What we need is better training and more qualified people in software in all industries. The amount of damage 1 bad hire can do is enough to keep 3 competent people busy fixing their mistakes and putting out fires.

[RicoElectrico]

I think good riddance? Even before the covid hit the junior positions were oversaturated with applicants.

I would say ChatGPT is great at getting started, especially so as it can help overcome the barrier of setting up a boilerplate project in particular framework/library.

Other than that, Exercism seems great.

[codingknight]

It was bad before but now it's worse, I run a job board and there's only one Junior Frontend Role...the bar for getting an entry level job right now is over the moon