[s1artibartfast]

the reality is that past injustices can not be fixed. nothing would undo them, from an ethical or practical perspective. people need to agree on a path to move forward, taking into account the reality of the situation, and if they can, they have to accept the alternative.

Palestinians have some moral high ground with respect to the nekba, as it was a disproportionate escalation. Israel has the highground with respect to de facto power.

[lots2learn]

If we can all agree that UN resolutions and international law should allowed to be implemented, that would be a path forward better than what's currently happening.

[s1artibartfast]

There is a very long list of what would be better than the current status.

None of them can work until the Jews and Palestinians actually want to stop killing each other.

They are currently stuck in a prisoners dilemma.

Who knows, if you are an optimist, maybe the destruction of hamas will be through enough that a successor accepting of current boarders comes to power.

This is the only way I can imagine things moving forward.

[lots2learn]

This is a false portrayal of the conflict. Israel wants to finish ethnically cleansing the west bank (as they have been doing and continue to do until this day) and want to either keep Gaza as a concentration camp or ethnically cleanse it as well. Palestinians want implementation of international law and UN resolutions which require a return to 67 borders and a right for Palestinian return. There IS a right and wrong side here and portraying the conflict as both sides just wanting to kill each other is obfuscating with the intent of portraying both sides equally at fault and thus the conflict hopelessly unsolvable.