[simonw]

"This model is being released under a non-commercial license that permits non-commercial use."

I'm very interested in high quality 3B models, but it's hard to get excited about this given the increasing array of commercially usable models.

[anigbrowl]

They have more fully open stuff in the pipeline. IMHO it's good that they put out stuff for hobbyists to play around with so that they're not immediately overtaken by people ready to deploy things at commercial scale.

[emadm]

It will be included under our membership next week which starts at $1 a month after grant ($20 base)

[makin]

The parent comment was referring to free ($0 a month) models. With those, companies don't need to plan around the possibility that Stability AI hikes up the price afterwards.

[emadm]

It’ll be static with cpi max, flat membership for all core models

Just released video, sdxl turbo and 3d, code and more coming

Very positive reaction so far and we will still do our grants for OSS and do OSS collaborations, done over 10m A100 hours over last year

Launches next few days https://x.com/emostaque/status/1732197072290353455?s=46

[22c]

You forgot the part where a holding company eventually buys Stability and starts to squeeze their customers that built the core part of their product around a pricing structure that's "static + CPI".

With a bit less snark; I think the pricing structure is reasonable, but that doesn't mean customers won't eventually get screwed over by it. See the Unity fiasco from earlier this year (which was backed out, but serves well as an example).

[all2]

> See the Unity fiasco from earlier this year (which was backed out, but serves well as an example).

They learned from the Russians. The Cuban missile crisis wasn't about Russian missiles in Cuba, it was about establishing an air base in Cuba. The missiles were the "price shock" item, and the airbase was the goal. If the Russians had put in just an airbase, it was very likely they never would have kept it.

[emadm]

Know it well from video game days, but its being set up for huge predictability / stability given we have simple company control.

The base membership is even separate from other services, designed to support open model development.

[22c]

I think the point is that a company can be owned and ran by "the good guys" until it isn't. This is why so many people are worried about the future of Bandcamp.

[echelon]

> Above 1m figuring out, contact https://stability.ai/contact

And 15% of revenue after you pass the "tiny startup" thresholds?

This looks to be shaping up as the same hook that Unity has, except you have to pay for model infra and engineering in addition to the product development costs.

It'd be nice if your company morphed into an open source HuggingFace + Together.ai / Replicate.ai where the model code is truly 100% open source, with no commercial use or revenue restriction clause.

Basically, I'm eagerly awaiting the Gitlab of AI to emerge.

I assume you have investor / revenue targets, though. And it's your company.

[emadm]

Nah its flat fee for all the models, no revenue share.

Amazon Prime but for generative AI, large companies have signed up for huge deals already and everyone has been happy with pricing, its designed to be simple base then we upsell other services but focus on research.

This lets us grow with the market and will do models of every modality for every country, including new BERTs and more.

We fund huge amounts of OSS, gave over 10m A100 hours in the last year and almost our collaborations are open.

For the stable series we are making it simple and scalable so we don't need to work against the people using the models.

[filterfiber]

After the Unity re-licensing fiasco, and OpenAI yanking old models,

is there any protections in place to allow the use of StableLM-Zephyr-3B indefinitely or will you be able to just deny any continuing access to models?

[emadm]

We looked at that, will be self service for commercial with flat pricing including all base models, weights are all downloadable by anyone.

Models are very interesting

[ilaksh]

Can you link to an explanation of how membership and licensing works for commercial use?

[brianjking]

Yeah, Replit is likely the best option out there for a 3B model size, right?

[filterfiber]

Refact has a decent 1.6B model that I think is better

https://huggingface.co/smallcloudai/Refact-1_6B-fim