[mxsjoberg]

> Maybe Tesla is the problem here.

No, this is an issue for other smaller companies too (with less media coverage)

> Maybe the rest of the world needs to catch up to the societal norms of Sweden when it comes to worker's rights.

I hope not. I kind of want a flying car ASAP. Not never.

[eddtries]

Hell yeah! Let's get those lazy workers on the lines working harder. Innovation and growth at all costs. Workers are cogs and if they're not behaving correctly they should be fixed or replaced. I, personally, am happy with a 21% illiteracy rate in America - workers don't need to be literate to make my flying cars faster.

Sweden might rank top for happiness and health but that's not going to make my bank numbers get higher for my annual two week holiday.

[Jochim]

> Sweden might rank top for happiness and health but that's not going to make my bank numbers get higher for my annual two week holiday.

The US seems to expect service workers to pretend to be happy in the hopes of receiving enough money to get by. Whereas the Nordics seem to take the approach of "let's make sure your service worker is happy" first and foremost.

The Nordic model seems more stable and less stressful for all parties involved.

[eddtries]

I've lived and worked in the UK, the Bay Area, and Stockholm. Sweden does not pay as well but the employee/union perks & lifestyle is night and day compared to the other two. I definitely miss Bay Area salaries but I'm getting more holiday, I get paid extra for going on holiday, I get a years paternity leave & IVF bonuses, I get free healthcare (and most employers offer free private healthcare), I get a company car for very cheap, rent/properties are cheap and actually pretty large, the cities are built around nature, poverty is low, crime is low, people are happy...

I prefer the Nordic model so far!

Edit: I forgot the best one - unemployment insurance. If I get laid off I get my salary covered at 80% for 6 - 12 months (depends on the policy). This is through the union. Such a nice relief with all the layoffs happening in tech nowadays.

[mxsjoberg]

Yet everything you use is made elsewhere.

Nordic model is such a great success.

[Jochim]

Unlike the wildly successful US model, where everything is made elsewhere and the majority of the population is one major illness away from bankruptcy. Sorry junior, no tertiary education for you.

[jcpst]

Sorry everyone- forget about the union. This guy on HN wants a flying car, and we’ll never have that as long as unions exist.

[mxsjoberg]

> we’ll never have that as long as unions exist

This might still be true tho. We'll see.

[Apocryphon]

Going by Peter Thiel’s quote, Twitter is impeding the creation of a flying car, meaning Musk is also currently at fault.

[othorns]

Sweden is consistently ranking very highly for innovation...

[mxsjoberg]

Ranking high? You don't need to rank high, you need to actually do stuff.

[ajmurmann]

No worries, the work will just get done elsewhere