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by bradjohnson 922 days ago
Exactly. The 10b5-1 schedule is a layer of misdirection, but the executives still have their hands firmly on the levers of price manipulation.
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There is no way to know what effect a layoff will have on stock price in advance. This sale would have happened in the exact same way if the stock had tanked after the layoff.
> There is no way to know what effect a layoff will have on stock price in advance

Sure, but looking at precedent gives you info to make a good bet- the last 2 Spotify layoffs this year each caused their stock to jump.

Sure. It's possible he decided he wanted to use a layoff as a way to make a gamble on the stock price before a scheduled sale.

However there is no actual evidence of this, so let's be careful about breaking out the pitchforks. This sale would have happened even if the stock tanked 50%.

It's not just Spotify layoffs that have caused stock pumps this year. Plenty of other large tech companies have experienced the same pump due to layoffs. It's a pretty good gamble.

The 10b5-1 schedule is referenced often by executives as an alibi against insider trading. Let's just be realistic that it likely doesn't prevent anything of the sort.

It is. At best. A gamble. There are more than enough examples of companies doing layoffs and experiencing stock losses.

Let’s be realistic that this trade was a) always going to happen no matter the stock price, b) the CEO does not have a crystal ball, and c) there is no evidence of the CEO timing layoffs as a ploy for personal gain.

It’s easy to get caught up in conspiracies that we want to be true.

Imagine if the timing were juuuust a little different, what the headlines would be. "Spotify CEO cashes in on millions before announcing layoffs". Hmmm.

It's weird to deny that executives can comprehend the impact of their decisions on the price of their ticker, but ok.

> It’s easy to get caught up in conspiracies that we want to be true.

I'm not saying there even needs to be a conspiracy for this specific case. I'm pointing out that there is nothing in the law that would stop them from taking advantage of this timing. Also that previous layoffs have resulted in a bump in share price multiple times in a row, and what do you know, it happened again. Even if it was a gamble, how can you deny that they're able to time information drops to their personal advantage? Isn't that a problem in itself?