[l33t7332273]

Would it materially impact your life to send me a video each time you use the restroom?

Probably not, but that doesn’t mean you’re comfortable with it being shared.

[WendyTheWillow]

That counts, can you show an example of this data being used in that way? In literally any way at all, has this data actually been used for anything?

[jabradoodle]

It's being sold illegally on the dark web; how do you propose we tell you how it's being used?

[WendyTheWillow]

When something actually happens.

[illiac786]

the classic counter argument here is “when something happens, it will be too late”.

[WendyTheWillow]

Yes but we tend to frown on precrime arrests.

[illiac786]

I never mentioned making an arrest?… Just preventing the crime from happening because then it will be too late.

We don’t wait for a pedestrian to be run over by a car to decide that a specific road is too unsafe for a specific speed, we tend to implement appropriate speed limits to prevent such irreversible things like death from happening.

Same applies with privacy. Once a person’s data is out there, you can’t take it back anymore, so if someone every finds a way to make money out of it to the detriment of this person, it’s too late. You can arrest this someone, then the next one will pop up and do the same with the same data.

[jabradoodle]

When is hacking and stealing people's personal data a precrime, when is criminal negligence a pre crime, what is your motive in any of this?