[konschubert]

It’s still bullshit.

Yes, it takes 9 months to grow a baby and it’s a health toll and a health risk. Fair.

But unless you’re planning to abandon your kids, most of the investment comes in the years after and this responsibility is equally on both father and mother.

[jimbob45]

But unless you’re planning to abandon your kids, most of the investment comes in the years after and this responsibility is equally on both father and mother.

One of the players in this game can freely walk away with no negative consequences. The other player is biologically attuned to lose their mind until they reunite with their child. Also, one player can have children up until 30-50, depending on how well they roll. The other player can have children until the moment they die. One player will have 3-5 years of extremely negative health effects starting with conception. The other player can fulfill their obligation in their sleep and never think about it again.

[konschubert]

Most fathers stay with their kids.

Something about your tone weirds me out, sorry.

EDIT:

I think part of of it is:

You seem to suggest that a father’s love and responsibility for their child is just an unnatural delusion. Even that it’s a bad thing somehow.

My narrow response to that is what I hinted at above:

Fathers love their children no less than mothers love their children.

My broader response is: Trying to be moral, and sometimes failing at it, is better than never trying and thus always failing.

Some people decided that they will just always do what’s best for themselves.

Such people like to claim that anyone who tries to be moral is always a lying hypocrite and thus worse than the absolute asshole. Because there is one sin that the absolute asshole can never be accused of: hypocrisy.

These people are hard to counter, because anything that is said will be labelled as hypocrisy.

The truth is that many, many people in this world sometimes do things because they are right, not because they benefit themselves.