[yesbut77]

Yes, but consider that people of higher SES do not want to mix with people of middle and low SES.

And part of that is because they are not fun to be around! People of low SES tend to be meaner, more anti-social in their behaviors like littering, not maintaining their environment, more likely to commit crime, less family formation, etc.

Access to well behaved people is not a human right.

[ArekDymalski]

>people of higher SES do not want to mix with people of middle and low SES.

To some extent the opposite is also true, because spending time with people with higher SES might cause a discomfort/decreased self-esteem or simply expose the asshole-side of elites which quite often appears in face of "paupers".

[konschubert]

Let me offer a third point of view:

All social classes benefit when social differences are minimised, like in 70s Sweden.

For the high SES people, this means that they can move freely without worrying about their safety.

Walking home late from a party, biking to work or working from a coffee shop on a busy plaza are pleasures in life that rich people like, too!

The opposite is something like Mexico, where, as a rich person, you are basically forced to stay inside a bunch of confined areas and only move in public inside an armoured car. (Slightly exaggerating, but you get the point)

All social classes have an interest to provide the universal high quality education system that is necessary to achieve this. Some rich people might think that they are better off if the rest of the country is poor. But they are mistaken.

[rangestransform]

relative socioeconomic equality is not a necessary condition of safety, see: singapore

[konschubert]

But Singapore isn’t a free democracy.

[alistairSH]

more likely to commit crime

Crimes that we deem should be enforced maybe. Wealthy white collar people do plenty of recreation drugs (coke, weed, X), commit financial crimes, etc.

[orwin]

I was invited to a Parisian party for 'high SES' people (200€ the entry ticket, it was two month of food at the time for me, but you get champagne with it!). I don't think i've ever seen as much antisocial behavior, even when I worked in a youth camp for abandoned/placed teenagers. I don't understand how prison aren't filled with those people. So much coke, sexual slavery in plain sight, drunk driving... One police descent and you have half the club in prison for a few years. And the person who invited us told us it was quite tame, and not the most expensive place (it was after a student hackathon with different schools participating, he was the MBA grad, we were devs/design type).

[gotoeleven]

Wow you went to a party in paris with sexual slavery and drunk driving in plain sight? Did someone drunk-drive a bus full of sex slaves up to the party and drop them off? What the hell are you talking about?

[orwin]

I meant very young eastern European women who did not speak French and clearly did not have any business there (also not sure if some weren't minors, there was a scandal with that and football players around the same time), and people being clearly drunk who snorted coke to 'get right' and be able to drive home.