[theshrike79]

It's not the efficiency of fossil fuel plants, it's this: What do you think is easier:

  a) Regulate the half-dozen coal plants in the country to clean up their shit and install scrubbers

or

  b) Somehow force 100k already sold ICE vehicles to install aftermarket pollution reduction doodads

_This_ is why EVs are better in the long run, as the grid moves to cleaner production, every single EV in use becomes more environmentally friendly at the same time.

[vlovich123]

I don’t disagree that it is better and easier to make cleaner coal plants en masse to reduce pollution. But you do get how that “clean coal” is mostly marketing and also has nothing to do with how much carbon is put into the air?

My point is not “we shouldn’t do evs” and more we are taking too long to electrify cars and this leaves out trucks, ships, and most trains (at least in the US). But that lack of electrification is outmatched by our inability to decarbonize the energy grid worldwide - with the decrease of % energy nuclear, it’s been met with increase in natural gas despite massive spikes in wind and solar. Additionally, since energy demands grow every year (eg electric cars now demand electricity from the grid) total energy is growing which means that despite increasing solar and wind, fossil fuel production has gained market share and total fossil fuel production has also grown. In no way is our grid energy production on a positive direction to becoming decarbonized.