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by e2le 930 days ago
"Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness later"
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26638703

I specifically cite this comment because of the "naughtiness" topic, but also feel dang's context is important. "naughtiness" and "pg" keywords in the search brings up lots on the topic for those who want to dive deep.

https://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/y-combinators-paul-graham-... ("Y Combinator's Paul Graham: We're Looking For People Like Us")

> Another key factor: Naughtiness. “Startups often have to do slightly devious things,” Graham says. “You can tell if people have a gleam in their eye. You don’t want people who would be obedient employees… we’re not looking for people who did what they were told in life.”

(I have no strong opinion on the topic; YC's job is to obtain VC asset class returns telling founders they are special and to grind people and markets until liquidity or failure, but dang is nice and effective for keeping this third space decent and vibrant)

If taken literally, this saying really bothers me.

Why would I forgive someone of an act that stems from a policy that they repentantly continue to hold?

Start by telling me why what you did that was wrong, and that you're committed to not repeating that behavior. Then we'll talk about forgiveness.

Otherwise you're just adding to your list of wrongs by playing me for a chump.

"..., but if strangers are stopping to record what you're about to do, just pause for a moment and verify the reasoning you used to disregard the warnings you were given."