[crazygringo]

> an effect you see in the US and European countries is a sense that cleaning up your own messes is low-class

At least in the US, I don't think that's the case at all.

A lot of people from other countries are genuinely shocked, for example, that "rich Americans" pick up their own dog's poop. Or even bus their own tray in a cafeteria.

There are a lot of countries where it's normal to have a maid, for example, where tidying after yourself is low-class in a sense. But the US is most definitely not one of those countries.

[black6]

It's the lowest of the classes in the US that is the worst about being trashy and not cleaning up after themselves.

[obscurette]

I think it speaks more about the people from other countries themselves than about the U.S. It's about naive view that if you are really rich, you don't have to do anything yourself. And in the US everyone is really rich from their point of view.