[qwebfdzsh]

So all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations?

Also unnecessary/avoidable deaths are only an issue if they are an outcome of violence or government restrictions if I understand correctly?

[Nextgrid]

> all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations

Technically we already have that with cigarettes and alcohol, so maybe it's time to drop the double-standards?

[tester756]

Cigarettes are really harmful, but still not as hard as drugs.

[Woshiwuja]

that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body. No other drug makes you more of it in less than an hour, except maybe heroin. And heroin should never be tried.

[tester756]

>that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body.

Uh, how many years of smoking or after how many years the cancer appears on average?

10? 20? 30?

Other drugs like cocaine/heroin will destroy your life way, way faster than that.

[DontchaKnowit]

Yeah sounds like youve no idea what youre talking about. First off heroin last longer than an hour. Second, many drugs make you want more within an hour (cocaine, benzos, sometimes amphetamines, alcohol) and many drugs can can increase your cancer risk because many of them do damage to your organ tissue cause they are caustic.

[Woshiwuja]

if you want to do coke and benzos more than once an hour sounds like you got a big problem

[DontchaKnowit]

sounds like you've never done coke or benzos

[Ckirby]

Uninformed Prohibitionist nonsense

[tester756]

How so?

[mptest]

Freely? Without any limitations? Of course not man.

25+ for hard drugs, daily limits, mandate taxes go to facilities for treatment and rehabilitation. Take the hundreds of billions from the global black market for drugs and the tens of billions we spend impotently pretending to stop drug dealers with idiotic agencies like the DEA and all of the sudden we turn a GIGANTIC minus in our budget in to a GIGANTIC increase in funding.

[qwytw]

> 25+ for hard drugs, daily limits,

So we can start with prescription drugs I assume? Unlimited access to OxyContin for everyone 25+. It's much safer than any illegally consumed opioids after all so what could go wrong? Oh wait..

> GIGANTIC increase in funding.

That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive.

[mptest]

>That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive.

Not at all. First off, all the money we spend on the dea and other drug enforcement could be instantly recouped. Billions for those d.a.r.e clowns ALONE. Plus, I'd wager to say cost of legal production would be a lot lower than illegal production + illicit shipment to end users. That leaves plenty of room to make a decent buck on taxes. But yeah a big portion of money would come from all the idiotic shit we no longer would have to do with drugs legal.

[qwytw]

> all the money we spend on the dea and other drug enforcement could be instantly recouped. Billions for those d.a.r.e clowns ALONE.

No. That can't happen unless the tax are extremely high which makes black market drugs more competitive. Also it should be perfectly obvious that full legalization would also significantly decrease costs for illegal producers as well.

> But yeah a big portion of money would come from all the idiotic shit we no longer would have to do with drugs legal.

Hard to believe since you don't actually have any figures to show.

[mptest]

>>daily limits

>unlimited access to oxycontin

Did you even read what you quoted? Who said Unlimited?

[qwytw]

You did. Daily limits is a silly idea that's trivial to workaround (effectively users will just end up paying markup on anything above the 'daily limit').

[Woshiwuja]

why 25? lol random age like 21 for drinking in the US

[Ckirby]

Neurodevelopmental reasons

It's not uncommon for people to "grow out" of a supposed "addiction"

[mptest]

brain fully developed. I was trying to be as conservative as possible

[Woshiwuja]

i mean... just go by legal age

[mptest]

for most drugs I agree but if we were going to be serious about legal heroin and coke and meth and the heavy shit to me it makes sense to say 18 for most shit then 25 plus a license to get the heavy shit