[Dudester230602]

Why not abandon the entire thing?

[Koshkin]

On the contrary - looking at the Java ecosystem I sometimes think, one must be insane not to use Java.

[projectileboy]

Agree. At this point the JVM ecosystem is pretty mature. Complaining about it is a bit like complaining about Unix. The question isn't whether or not it's good compared to an ideal; the question is whether or not it's good compared to existing alternatives.

[pjmlp]

The only real alternative is .NET, hence why I use both platforms, :)