[abenga]

Human nature? Of freaking course! Using tools, seeking amusement? Yes, it's human nature.

Banding together to improve our chances of survival? Yeah. In the past it was a few dozen, now it's a few hundred thousand. I don't understand this notion that living in the woods or something is human nature. Working together to grow beyond that is human nature.

[mantas]

It’s not living solo in the woods vs multi million megapolies. IMO Dunbar number gives a rough idea what may be the sweet number for a community size.

And you don’t need to live in a single city. Banding together includes communities sticking together.

Birth rates in cities suggest there may be issues with dense cities too. Mouse paradise experiments and all that jazz.