[nosequel]

I would like to know the range when towing 11,000 lbs. In the full size market, I can only think of the Nissan Titan as having less than 12,000 lb tow rating. A base Ford F150 has a 14,000 rating. When you move up to diesels, you can easily tow 20,000+ lbs and even at 10,000 lbs you take very little hit on range if your load is somewhat aerodynamic. Pulling a full-size Airstream you can still get 20+mpg even in a small diesel like in the Chevy Colorado.

Other folks mentioned the frame or brakes as the reason for the low tow rating. I imagine the cybertruck has a strong frame, Tesla has never gone cheap when it came to that sort of thing, and I'm sure the braking is fine for small loads. Most big loads require the trailer to have its own braking anyway, so that's almost a moot point, even in the biggest truck, I'm not pulling over 10,000 lbs without a proper brake controller. I'm guessing they set the rating at 11,000 lbs because anything over that and you probably end up with a very expensive 30 mile battery range. I would initially compare the cybertruck to something like a Tacoma which has more like a 7,000 lb towing capacity, but then you look at the weight of a cybertruck at 6800 lbs, the damn thing is nearly 2000 lbs heavier than a base F150. The curb weight of the biggest F150 you can get is only 5800 lbs, still 1,000 lbs lighter than the cybertruck.

[TheSwordsman]

The 11,000 may be limited by the suspension system.

So in terms of comparisons I don't think you're wrong, but it might be better to compare it to the F-150 Lightning for more of an apples to apples comparison. The F-150 Lightning Platinum vs Cybetruck AWD is probably the most fair comparison in terms of specs, but the CT is ~$20,000 cheaper

If we compare the F-150 Lightning Lariat with XR Battery to the Cybertruck AWD, because of price:

F-150:

Range: 320mi

Towing: 7,700lbs

Curb Weight: 6,361lbs

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CT:

Range: 340mi

Towing: 11,000lbs

Curb Weight: 6,603lbs

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F-150 Lighting Platinum to CT Cyberbeast, because of price:

F-150:

Range: 300mi

Towing: 8,500lbs

Curb Weight: 6,893lbs

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CT:

Range: 320mi

Towing: 11,000lbs

Curb Weight: 6,843lbs

[nosequel]

I considered the Lightning and I really wanted to like it, but for a truck, I’d still rather have a diesel. I have a 36 gal tank, I can tow 20k+lbs, and I can beat the hell out of it and get it fixed anywhere.

I would love a PHEV truck though. Give me a 30 mile range for just driving it around unloaded and I’ll happily go into diesel mode whenever I have to do real work.

[wazokazi]

A different comparison would be the following (from the manufacturers sites)

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  Ford Lightning Pro: $50K
    240 Mile EPA-Est. Range – Standard-Range Battery and RWD171
    0-60 MPH in 4.1 seconds - Standard Range Battery\*
    Wireless Integration with Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™
    12-inch Touchscreen
    Mega Power Frunk

  CT Rear-Wheel Drive: $61k
    Available in 2025
    250 MI. Range (EST.)
    6.5 sec. 0-60 mph

very similar ranges and specs, but and CT is 10k more. Also, ships in 2 years.

[theluketaylor]

Interior of a F-150 Platinum is way nicer than anything Tesla has ever made and that's where nearly all the $20,000 goes to (along with Ford's nice margin for a luxury truck).

Trim-to-trim equivalency hard to get since Tesla interiors are so spartan and each company is putting their money in difference places, but it's probably Lariat. Lariat big battery comes to about 76K compared to the true purchase price of 100K for cyberbeast.

[vel0city]

Range hit from towing in an EV largely a factor of air resistance. Maxing out the weight with a small trailer is often less of a range hit than having a large but mostly empty trailer. Adding a lot of weight will cause some impact from rolling resistance but most of the extra energy use towing is aero drag.

For reference there's almost no range hit for maxing out the bed payload on a Lightning.

[tyingq]

The electric F150 weighs 6500 lbs...1,800-pound battery.

[nosequel]

Yeah, reading my post, I didn't do a great job making the point I set out to. I was considering the size of the Cybertruck, wondering if Tesla were trying more for the Tacoma & Ranger sized truck market. I started to make that point and then looked up the weight of the Cybertruck and attempted (poorly) to use it as a metric for the size. I should've just used overall length, which would've been more clear and wouldn't have had the weight of the battery involved. Either way, at 223" inches, it is certainly in the full-sized market.

[bryanlarsen]

It's about a foot longer than a Ranger Supercab and 10" shorter than an F150 Supercrew.