[giantg2]

What are you talking about?

I can't change jobs now due to home life responsibilities and having specialized in dead tech.

I have picked up responsibilities. In the past I've filled the role of a senior dev for a year and a tech lead for another. I volunteered to be an ASC. I volunteered for all sorts of other responsibilities.

Perhaps the world doesn't work in the way that you think. It's not possible for everyone to successfully job hop, especially with a disability and home responsibilities. Just picking up responsibilities doesn't mean you'll get rewarded.

[rad_gruchalski]

> Just picking up responsibilities doesn't mean you'll get rewarded.

I'm sorry, I did not mean to attack, or otherwise offend you. I was attempting to say that one can look for an opportunity to work in an environment where one can feel appreciated. I'd employ a person with such experience as long as they'd know some basics. What's TLS, how does it work, roughly. What's DNS. TCP vs UDP. At least understanding of what problems are solved (or created, if you are in that camp) by Kubernetes. Docker basics. Read open source code.

Those are interesting subjects. I'm sure there is a ton of hypothetical past problems one could attempt to modernize and have fun while doing so.

It's just a free opinion of someone on the internet!

[scarface_74]

> I can't change jobs now due …having specialized in dead tech.

Then don’t do that?

I’ve been working professionally for 27 years and have been aggressive about keeping pace with technology. I saw what happened first hand when I didn’t between around 2002-2008 and I said it would never happen again.

For reference: I didn’t know “cloud” from a hole in the wall at 44 years old and I got my first and hopefully last job in BigTech at 46 working at AWS in the ProServe department (where I got PIPed see my top level comment)

It is completely irresponsible for anyone in tech especially with a family to not always keep themselves employable and depend on the whims of thier current employer to support their families addiction to food, clothing and shelter.

And how does a disability preclude you from getting a remote job?

And if you “can’t job hop”, would you not look for another job if you got laid off or fired or would you just give up and be on the street - homeless and hungry?

> Just picking up responsibilities doesn't mean you'll get rewarded.

I’m always rewarded for picking up additional responsibilities - if not by the current company by the next. It’s what allows me to aggressively job hop with a family and not be stuck with dead technologies on my resume.

[giantg2]

I have responsibilities and problems at home that greatly limit my non-work hour freedom. My disability is not a physical one, but a neurodivergent one, so remote would only hurt me more. I would look for another job if I lost this one, but it would probably pay less - again, no real time to upskill. Sure, I've gotten new certs and other BS over the years and started working with new tech. That hasn't been helpful. I've worked roles above my official position and not been rewarded. In fact, I haven't seen any of my hard work or extra responsibilities pay off after my first promotion about 3 years in. I don't expect another promotion for the rest of my career either. That's just the way it is for me.

Not everyone's life is as easy as you make your's out to be.

[scarface_74]

Again if you lost your job you would do what it took to get another one wouldn’t you? So what’s the difference between changing jobs when you do have a choice and waiting until you don’t have a choice?

If you don’t make time now to upskill, what do you think is going to happen if/when you don’t have a choice but to look for a job and be stuck with in your words “dead tech”.

[giantg2]

"So what’s the difference between changing jobs when you do have a choice and waiting until you don’t have a choice?"

The difference is that if I lost this job I would then have time during the day to look for jobs or study when I would have been working.

I don't really care what will happen. My area is shitty for tech work, my wife won't move, and I'm ill suited to remote work. I'm just coasting now. There's no point in upskilling until I would know what skills the other company would want because there are so many different things they could wanting the tech changes so fast.

[scarface_74]

That’s not how it works. Given a choice between hiring someone who learned on the side with no real world experience and hiring someone with real world experience - the latter wins.

That’s why you do volunteer for opportunities where you can up skill on the job and while you are still employed you find another job where you can get in based on what you know and then transition

[giantg2]

"Given a choice between hiring someone who learned on the side with no real world experience and hiring someone with real world experience - the latter wins."

Lol so I'm in a catch 22 and your precious advice does not apply.

"That’s why you do volunteer for opportunities where you can up skill on the job"

That's not how my org works.