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by steveBK123 932 days ago
This almost feels like a false flag of proposing the most disruptive plan possible such that it couldn't possibly be approved, haha.

Splitting & re-groupings are almost arbitrary and have no consideration for politics, business and culture.

Ireland & N. Ireland in different TZ? France & Corsica in different TZ? Pushing Ireland & Portugal into their own TZ and calling it Azores time? Bringing UK into alignment with Spain/France/Belgium/Netherlands, but pushing Germany/Italy/Switzerland into alignment with Eastern Europe countries but out of alignment with Western Europe?

A 2 step process by which some countries change TZ twice? Would love to write the code for that mess.

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On Ireland, our biggest business partner in Europe is still the UK.

I don’t think we’ll be clambering to add friction to business with Northern Ireland and Britain so we can hang out with Portugal and Iceland.

Such European parochialism! Next you’ll be talking about how traveling more than 900 meters is an epic adventure.

Trust me. You can deal with 3 hour time difference without even noticing.

Look, a couple of hundred thousand people commute across the border on the island of Ireland and there's huge cultural issues around basically everything. The Republic of Ireland would never be in a different timezone to the UK as long as part of the UK is on the island of Ireland. It's just not going to happen.
That may be, but don’t call a neighboring time zone “friction”.

I grew up next to Indiana, a state notorious for screwing up their time. (Scroll down to “History” and each decade for past 70 years.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

Yeah it was a big shock to me when I crossed that timezone between Chicago and Indiana.

Look, it's a cultural thing. The reason that we have peace on the island is due to constructive ambiguity. Half the population can pretend they're Irish, the other half can pretend they're British. Anything that makes that more difficult is not a runner.

Trust me. A 3 hour time difference could be the greatest ever efficency hack that would 10x the majority of your workforce performance (10x's stack for your 10x employees as well).
The page does explicitly call out Ireland and Northern Ireland as an issue with the first draft of the map. This feels to me like the part of the process where you stand up a proposal to get refinement, since large deliberative bodies are rarely able to create such a proposal from scratch.
Duh, just put all Europe in UTC.
This but unironically.

(Actually don't, this is what china does and it's not a very good time (hah.))

I too would also love maintaining servers where the time changes according to some convoluted approach that no one really understands.

Sec becomes really, really easy. No one can access it at all!