[JumpCrisscross]

> don't see how 'Tesla' is not top of the list here

Tesla owners love their cars. This means they tend to overlook issues others might find unacceptable. If my car just refused to drive until I restarted it a few times, that would be a catastrophic fuckup. But I’ve seen Tesla owners shrug that away.

Which is fine! There have always been legendary cars with notorious maintenance issues. But base reliability matters to most, and it matters to track that neutrally.

[mkii]

Is it fine though? For people to use machines that are known to put others in danger? I'm referring to "FSD" doing absolutely bullshit things like not detecting objects in the way.

[JumpCrisscross]

> referring to "FSD" doing absolutely bullshit things like not detecting objects in the way

Did Consumer Reports look at FSD? I don't think optional features like that factor into reliability.

[mkii]

I didn't say it did?