[mbreese]

> then that will pressure employers to pay people better

When taken to the logical end, this is true… but who ends up getting hurt the most during the transition? The workers you ultimately want to help. I can’t see that as a good alternative.

[genocidicbunny]

Then that's the sad reality. We've used tips as a bandaid for low wages for too long, and now ripping the bandaid off is going to hurt. But the alternative is that the wound festers and potentially gets even worse because it's buried deep under a bandaid.

[JohnFen]

The alternative is to maintain the status quo, and the status quo should not be maintained.