[Sebb767]

> Yea, this is how you end up being an incel because telling people "It's not your fault, it's everyone else's fault" is a very effective trap huge parts of populations fall in

Fully agreed, but, to be honest, the following:

> The route to good mental health generally starts with parents with good mental health then a social circle of people with good mental health.

> So the route to better mental health is connections with other people... which you don't have, and you don't have the internal tools to build. Especially without fear of rejection.

... reads a lot like "it's not your fault, it's the circumstances/somebody elses".

[pixl97]

>reads a lot like "it's not your fault, it's the circumstances/somebody elses".

Well, yes, that's how circumstances typically work. I know the rugged individualists are busy launching themselves to space via their own bootstraps, but average person can become trapped in the life they live pretty easily.

Meanwhile societies that actually want to move into the future while minimizing the terrible outcomes will have programs to avoid it, such as social security so we don't have to watch grandma and grandpa die on the side of the road of old age. Or in this case, some people might be able to receive help that is outside of your heterodoxy.

[Sebb767]

> I know the rugged individualists are busy launching themselves to space via their own bootstraps, but average person can become trapped in the life they live pretty easily.

True.

> Meanwhile societies that actually want to move into the future while minimizing the terrible outcomes will have programs to avoid it, such as social security so we don't have to watch grandma and grandpa die on the side of the road of old age.

You might be surprised to learn that I fully agree.

> Or in this case, some people might be able to receive help that is outside of your heterodoxy.

Which would be perfect! The question being discussed is: Is an AI chatbot really "help"? Especially when we're not talking about absolute edge cases, in which case we both agree that the answer is "yes".