[stupendousyappi]

This is how I feel about Vlad's statement on their Discord that he wants to provide email services. That strikes me as a big project in terms of both development and operations, somewhat contrary to their privacy focus, and not something that their users are asking for (on Discord, I'd say that most commenters said they were unlikely to use it any time soon, switching would be too much of a hassle). And while I subscribe to Kagi and love the search product, they're still a tiny company with no long term track record, and far from what I would feel comfortable trusting with my email, which IMO is much more sensitive than my search history. Meanwhile, although Kagi Search already reliably beats Google IMO, there's still a ton of stuff they could do to improve their main product.

[tiltowait]

I had similar reservations when I read the email discussion. I hope they aren't spreading themselves too thin.

I use Orion as my daily driver (because of the nested tree view), but Kagi Search is more important to me, and I don't want to see that go down under the weight of a bunch of distractions.

[carlosjobim]

Completely agree with you that Kagi e-mail will be unnecessary, even though I trust them on privacy. There are already great e-mail providers, such as Fastmail. But it makes some sense for them to go for e-mail, since they're already hitting Google on search. They're basically going after Google where it's possible: search, web browser, e-mail. They can't go after Google on maps or video streaming, so they do what they can. I'd much rather they innovate and get ready for the future of the internet after AI has destroyed traditional discovery.

[kzhe]

But they are going after google maps. There's a beta "Kagi maps" on their maps tab

[carlosjobim]

The reason people use Google Maps is because businesses provide them with their opening hours and users provide them with reviews, photos, etc. A small company like Kagi can never have that (unless they buy it from Google), so they can't really compete with GMaps. Apple could have a shot, if they weren't so arrogant.