[fl7305]

> If your greatest achievement ended up with a bunch of people dead - maybe there would have been more utility in self-destruction.

In other words, American Indians who were proud of their spears and axes should instead have embraced self-destruction.

Yikes.

My ancestors were vikings. Should their victims also have embraced self-destruction rather than make the best weapons they could to defend themselves from the vikings?

> maybe you need to be in situation where violence is a possible outcome to remember no one wants it.

Tell me more about how the vikings "didn't want violence"?