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by orangechairs 938 days ago
I only ever hear about Shein in a negative light. It's never been entirely clear to me why Forever21's and H&M's disposable clothing is somehow morally superior to Shein's.
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They are remarkably less disposable. That's how bad Shein is. I worked in the industry in a past life and I've seen how the sausage is made. Shein has got the nastiest sausage.
It has been alleged that Shein uses forced labor to make its products (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/01/shein-china-congress-forced-...).

Anecdotally, I have heard that there is three towns where a predominant amount of Shein clothes are made and while people are free to leave, they’re paid in “company bucks” akin to company towns in the late 1800s/early 1900s US.

H&M (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/business/xinjiang-china-c...) and Zara (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Retail/Uniqlo-Zara-owners-f...) have been accused of the same. Forever 21 has a direct parnership with Shein (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/24/shein-strikes-deal-with-fast...).

If you're buying a t-shirt for under $20, forced labor is probably somewhere in the supply chain.

They steal designs from independent fashion designers (because designing their own clothes would cost too much I guess). It's also the volume with Shein. They produce so much crap at such low prices and it's all just dumped into an already struggling environment. Shein is far from the only one, but it's the most obvious and well known example.
Not 100% sure, but it look like with "Shein drops up to 10,000 new items on its website daily" (source: https://www.npr.org/2023/10/13/1204983212/shein-america-fast...), it is H&M and Zara on steroids.

The expiration date on clothes is so short that now transporting it by boat is not too slow, and they have to take plane.

(writing this post, while wearing 4yo jeans, and 5yo t-shirt)

I think people just look at the price and assume it must be terrible, somehow.

Fast fashion gets a bad rap because of the assumptions about consumer behavior and labor. Almost all clothing is terrible for the environment and for the people manufacturing it, anyway. I have many H&M items that are nearly a decade old and are still wearable.

As long as the piece is durable, it should be fine. I might be extreme, as I prefer fewer stuff of better quality, that last years. Like a pair of jeans that I can wear every day for years.
I still have a few things from F21 and H&M that I bought 7-10 years ago. Definitely the exception and not the rule, but I don't think any Shein clothing can last even a fraction as long as that.