[aaomidi]

This is actually democracy in action.

Worker unions are a lot better at making the voices of workers heard and actuated on.

[letmevoteplease]

If a company is legally required to use PostNord and PostNord can legally refuse to deliver mail, it effectively gives PostNord the power to control any company that wants to continue receiving mail. Regardless of whether they are using that power for good or evil here, I don't think it's a power they should have.

[frosting1337]

Why not? They're a private company. Isn't that usually what Americans are telling people, that corporations are free to serve who they please?

But, more importantly, PostNord isn't doing anything - it's a unionised group of workers refusing to deliver Tesla products. That's how strikes work, and Musk's go-to course of action is to immediately proceed to legal action rather than negotiating and meeting the union's requirements.

[nomel]

> They're a private company.

How does a private company get the benefits of being legally required? That seems like a benefit that only a public company should have.

[philipwhiuk]

It's not really a private company. It's wholly owned by the government of Sweden and the government of Denmark.

[philipwhiuk]

It's not really a private company. It's wholly owned by the government of Sweden and the government of Denmark.

[einr]

Postnord as a company is not refusing anything. Some of the workers for Postnord are on strike.

[hayleox]

PostNord isn't refusing to do anything. Its employees are refusing to cross a picket line, and PostNord is unable to compel them to do so.

[david38]

Not sure you know what democracy is.

Tesla is required by law to use the post to get plates. This invalidates the whole premise.

[skitout]

Not sure you know what democracy is... Democracy is not just voting for your MP, it includes unions, strikes and collective agreement

If Tesla agreed (like 99,9999% of companies) with the democratically designed collective agreement, there would be no targeted strike. Strikes are one of the main democratic bargaining tool employees and unions have... including on key point of businesses.

[mxsjoberg]

> democratically designed collective agreement there is no such thing

[emj]

Lots of people work together and vote in their local unions, that then is taken into account when the the terms of a collective agreement is negotiated. That seems like the definition of democracy.

[cinntaile]

What is undemocratic about a law in a democratic country? They can pick up their plates themselves for now, the lawsuit will decide what the law says.

[okr]

Maybe being able to pick any other company to make the plates? For god sake, it is just a plate. A simple piece of metal with some letters on it to make everyone happy with traceability.

[cinntaile]

Government contracts need to fulfill very specific rules to prevent conflicts of interest. This one company one that bid and is now responsible for that. If you want it any other way, the law needs to be changed and that is again a democratic process.

[frosting1337]

You realise, of course, that if another company was able to deliver the plates, the same issue would still be occuring thanks to Swedish unions being in solidarity?

[sbuttgereit]

So gerrymandered districting exists as law in a democratic country, yet would you call that democratic?

[cinntaile]

I'm not following, no voting districts are being changed here? This lawsuit is about license plates that have a contractually decided upon producer and distributor.

[stcredzero]

Worker unions are a lot better at making the voices of workers heard and actuated on.

Then why in this case are they violating consensuality and trying to impose the collective agreement on the Tesla worker pool from outside?

[aaomidi]

Because workers having each others backs is actually a good thing?

It effectively creates a powerful voice of literally everyday people who are working.

Solidarity strikes is the real power of worker unions.

[stcredzero]

Because workers having each others backs is actually a good thing?

Then why don't they have the backs of the majority of Tesla workers who didn't want the agreement? Are some workers more equal than others?