[ZanyProgrammer]

By any definition but yours Acela is indeed HSR, it’s the fucking fastest train in North America!

[trbleclef]

That doesn't mean it's fast

[JJMcJ]

It's what the rest of the industrialized world calls "a train".

[lmm]

It's substantially faster than Brightline, so claiming it isn't HSR but Brightline somehow is is absurd.

[TylerE]

It is though. On a trip earlier this year I clocked at it almost 150mph via GPS. That's HSR by any definition.

[shiroiuma]

Acela is indeed fast for a short stretch. But the average speed is terrible, so it's only "HSR" on a technicality. It could be serious HSR if they had control and/or ownership of the entire route and made it as good as that short section where they can hit that peak speed.

Acela is like a Formula 1 car that gets to do one quick lap on a nice racetrack, then has to take another course through bumper-to-bumper traffic for the rest of the race.

[TylerE]

You’re overstating it. The rest of the route is, except for a couple of areas around stations, a 125 limit, which is still basically double what Amtrak averages anywhere else.