[imetatroll]

Western culture no longer seems to appreciate the commitment that is required to raise children. Personally I think people are too self-centered and are too eager to seek hedonism. Whether or not it will be OK long term is to be seen.

I have no doubt that if you were to ask the people without kids on their death bed if they wished they had had them, they would say yes.

[Fricken]

In western culture raising kids by societal norms is a bigger commitment than it ever was. My grandma had 7 siblings and no shoes for most of her childhood. It wasn't nearly as big a commitment for my great grandparents to raise her.

[amrocha]

People in their deathbed also regret working so much but nobody's chomping at the bit to quit their job and become a bum.

[david-gpu]

> People in their deathbed also regret working so much but nobody's chomping at the bit to quit their job and become a bum

The Financially Independent Retired Early (FIRE) movement is very popular and it centers around focusing on the essentials so that you can quit working early. And that's just an example of one of the ways in which people escape the rat race.

[ido]

Bums exist, so someone must have!