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by derrasterpunkt 928 days ago
>I wish Apple would hire a team to properly maintain this, the way Valve has done with Proton and Steam Deck Verified.

Valve cooperated with Codeweavers, the makers of Crossover, to build Proton. And afaik Apple „works“ with Codeweavers. Well at least they don‘t get in the way to incorporate GPTK into Crossover. Apple changed the licence of GPTK so that Codeweavers can include GPTK.
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solardev 928 days ago
Good point! Have you had any experience with CrossOver? Does it tend to work better than Whisky?

Part of the nuance here is that although both can use GPT underneath, there's still a lot of config that needs to happen beforehand (e.g. different "sync" modes that impact not just visual fidelity, but whether the game will even launch at all). Does CrossOver take care of all that for you (with predefined pre-game profiles, perhaps) or do you still have to manually configure every title?

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dantondwa 928 days ago
> Good point! Have you had any experience with CrossOver? Does it tend to work better than Whisky?

It certainly does. It has presets for most mainstream games and it uses the latest version of Wine.

The author of Whisky, in a move that can't be praised enough, has decided to not update further the version of CrossOver on which Whisky relies. This is so that Whisky does not become a free clone of CrossOver, given that CodeWeavers are the ones developing Wine. So, I'd say it is worth using CrossOver! They also have a free trial, so I'd give it a try and compare it with Whisky for a specific game, and see what runs better!

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derrasterpunkt 928 days ago
Not in depth. I’m just a user of Crossover, I haven’t had time to try Whisky. I think sometimes Codeweavers incorporates fixes for certain games into the app updates. Especially for the Steam app, for example. These appear in the changelogs. I use Crossover with CXPatcher because I then can use more up-to-date versions of DXVK and GPTK. The update cycle of Crossover is a bit slow for what is going on in that space right now.
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hypercube33 927 days ago
The biggest problems I've run into with gaming on Linux/wine/proton whatever are DRM getting upset about something.
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solardev 927 days ago
Give GFN a try. No DRM issues.
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kbf 928 days ago
I think a recent beta of Crossover incorporated a GPTK version before it was released by Apple so that seems promising.
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