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by dl9999 943 days ago
I have a similar interest in NDEs. 30 years ago I "knew" what they were. Now I'm not so sure.

Do you have any links to articles about the blind people knowing what color clothes people were wearing?

Thanks.

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I'm pretty sure it is from David Suich, and I believe I have heard him make the claim more than once in interviews, however since I have his book "God took my clothes" (rating 3 out of 5, had higher hopes) the only thing I found was:

Of the hundreds of near-death experiences that I have heard, two of them were from people who were blind since birth. During their experiences, they could see for the first time. They were not able to say which colors they saw because they have never learned what colors go with which name. They could only describe what they saw as different intensities and shades of light and color.

So, I'd look at a few of the interviews he gave on youtube and be careful with believing that it was exactly as I claimed. Also, whether this was reported by the experiencer or told to credible people in the room on wakeup, it's still a lot less scientifically rigid than most unreplicatable experiments in other fields.

(And a paranthesis, these journeys are within each of us, but about not being sure what NDEs are, if they are actually happening as experienced, they happen in a reality with a completely different metaphysics, seemingly projected onto the (far lower dimensional) concepts understood by the experiencer. If anything I find NDEs refreshingly straightforward with friendly guides explaining things in ways that make sense, a concept of God that is without the paradoxes of Abrahamic religions, explanations for sufferings and evil that don't conflict with a benevolent God. Compare it to the absolute confusion that is UFO encounters, while similar, are full of nonsensical elements and seem designed to deceive and confuse. But about the actual nature of it, what could we really understand?)

Thanks for the references. I will check out David Suich and his Youtube interviews!
I'd also like to add that the other stats about blind people seeing, and more examples of blind from birth people describing colors, are from:

Ring K, Cooper S. Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind. Palo Alto, CA: William James Center for Consciousness Studies, Institute of Transpersonal Psychology; 1999

Vicki was married and wearing rings, but of course had never seen them. Here are her recollections of her rings:

I think I was wearing the plain gold band on my right ring finger and my father’s wedding ring next to it. But my wedding ring I definitely saw… That was the one I noticed the most because it’s unusual. It has orange blossoms on the corners of it.

What is so remarkable about Vicki’s recollection of these visual impressions is that she had never before understood the concept of vision. “This was,” she said, “the only time I could ever relate to seeing and to what light was, because I experienced it.