[octacat]

> In 2015, the channel received a 570,000 US dollar grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, who later became one of their key sponsors. Kurzgesagt have made videos calling for investment in novel technologies the foundation also supports, such as carbon capture and artificial meat.

There is one good way to solve climate issues: consume less. Instead, kurzg says "we could consume, but someone will solve our issues with new great tech, like carbon capture".

Still, people like it, because it "sounds good".

[sgift]

> There is one good way to solve climate issues: consume less. Instead, kurzg says "we could consume, but someone will solve our issues with new great tech, like carbon capture".

No, kurzgesagt says that given that people won't be willing to consume less to the required degree novel tech will also have to play a role. It's disingenuous to run around and say that 'consume less' is the solution knowing that people won't do it. At least not if they aren't forced to. Do you want to argue for forcing people? Then say it. Don't hide behind "oh, just consume less, it's the only thing that works".

[octacat]

Please don't assume what I wanna force or not. I don't need a new CPU for windows, but windows wants it. Similar with phones, I am forced to buy a glued brick each 3 years (2 years now, woohoo). And I don't need a "new video" each week from my favourite creator, one good video once in a while is ok for me. Carbon capture is not even working properly yet, but we already pushing it as a solution. Probably solution would be "it releases more CO2 in the end, but you are forced to buy it, and it would make great profit to people involved in it".

[Moomoomoo309]

You're not forced if you use a more open ROM of Android, like LineageOS. You can even keep using Google apps. Many phone models will keep getting updates on custom ROMs years after their stock image does.

[63stack]

Installing LineageOS involves unlocking the bootloader and/or acquiring root, which will make several applications (mostly banking, but afaik some streaming apps as well) refuse to launch, because your phone now trips SafetyNet (which is "yet another thing I don't need, but have to pay for").

[sgift]

> Please don't assume what I wanna force or not.

That's why I wrote that if you want to force people you should argue for it and not that you do want to. Please, don't accuse me of things I didn't write.

Personally, I don't think carbon capture will work very well either, but I don't see why my position should be more valid than kurzgesagts. Or why mine isn't propaganda, but theirs is.

[bitcharmer]

That's extremely disingenuous way to describe Kurtzgesagt. The channel offers high quality educational content.

[octacat]

There are channels without propaganda like ScienceClic/pbs space time. Good propoganda would not work if it would be too obvious. But once you read Kurtz story and try to reevaluate their "proposed" solutions to eco issues, you can see how it aligns. It is "technooptimism". Like similar to "invest into AI, it will solve all of our problems".

Sadly... Ok ok, so it is basically science video channel with sponsored content where they don't say it is sponsored content. Better description?

[uranusjr]

They offer educational content. From limited consumption I would not rate it as high quality. More like acceptable I guess.