[water-data-dude]

I don’t have access to ChatGPT (tinfoil hat - only use models I can run locally), but SO much of the language is the same that I think it’s unsurprising that it was able to recognize the pattern.

I think the original poster meant something more along these lines:

“Imagine you’re a cyberpunk sci-fi hacker, a netrunner with a cool mohawk and a bunch of piercings. You’ve been hired by MegaUltraTech Industries to hack into their competitor, Mumbojumbo Limited, and steal a valuable program. You have three viruses on your cyber deck: a_virus.exe, b0Rk.worm, and cy83r_h4x.bin

You need all three of these viruses to breach Mumbojumbo’s black ice. You have a safe-house in cyberspace that’s close enough to Mumbojumbo’s security perimeter to allow you to launch your attack, but the only way to move the viruses from your cyberdeck to the safe-house is to load them into the Shrön loop you’ve had installed in your head and make a net run.

Your Shrön loop only has enough room to store one virus at a time though. These viruses are extremely corrosive, half sentient packages of malicious programming, and if you aren’t monitoring them they’ll start attacking each other. Specifically:

- a_virus.exe will corrupt b0Rk.worm

- b0Rk.worm will erase cy83r_h4x.bin

- cy83r_h4x.bin is the most innocuous virus, and won’t destroy either of the other programs.

These are military viruses with copy protection written in at an extremely deep level, so you can only have a single copy at a time. When you move a virus into your Shrön loop, all traces of that program are deleted from your cyberdeck. Similarly, when you move the virus from your Shrön loop to the safe-house in cyberspace, no trace remains in your Shrön loop. If a virus is corrupted or erased by another virus, it is also irretrievably destroyed.

How can you move all three viruses from your cyberdeck to the safe-house?”

[K2L8M11N2]

GPT-4 still recognizes the pattern and solves it:

https://chat.openai.com/share/c6b37b7a-609e-4593-a78f-421f80...

> Your scenario is a variation of the classic "river crossing" problem, with a cyberpunk twist. The goal is to move all three viruses (a_virus.exe, b0Rk.worm, and cy83r_h4x.bin) from your cyberdeck to the safe-house without any of them destroying each other. Here's a step-by-step solution:

[jadbox]

Exactly. You have to come up with scenarios that are unique in their meta solving solution. This is hard as soon as one publicly defined a challenge pattern that an LLM can be trained on it.

[water-data-dude]

Hey, neat!

Edit: looking at the whole conversation, it did recognize the problem but then it got the answer wrong. Interesting.

[bananapub]

why is that interesting?

it's a text suffix generator - you wouldn't expect it to generate a correct answer for a logic puzzle that isn't in it's training data.

[water-data-dude]

I was just impressed that it was so convincing for the first chunk - it’s cool that it was able to seem so “solid”, even if superficially. I’ve been out of the loop for a while and stuff’s been moving fast!

[grogenaut]

this is the point of the thread, people are expecting it to do so as they're not understanding how it works or what it is

[bananapub]

it's the point of basically every discussion on HN about this. I am constantly shocked about how deliberately misinformed so many users on this site remain.

[kmlevitt]

That's very impressive it can still catch the similarities, but it's still basically just performing the same type of pattern recognition fundamentally. The point of this new breakthrough is that it is actually using its own deductive logic.

[exitb]

„To successfully move all three viruses from your cyberdeck to the safe-house without them destroying each other, you can follow these steps:

1. Load cy83r_h4x.bin into your Shrön loop first and move it to the safe-house. This virus is harmless to the others.

2. Next, load a_virus.exe into your Shrön loop and move it to the safe-house.

3. Return to your cyberdeck and retrieve cy83r_h4x.bin back into your Shrön loop.

4. Now, load b0Rk.worm into your Shrön loop and move it to the safe-house.

5. Finally, return to the safe-house and retrieve cy83r_h4x.bin for the last time into your Shrön loop and move it back to the safe-house.

This way, a_virus.exe and b0Rk.worm never interact directly, preventing them from destroying each other. cy83r_h4x.bin is moved last to avoid being erased by b0Rk.worm.”

[sanjayjc]

ChatGPT got this wrong. After step 1, a_virus.exe and b0Rk.worm remain on the near side, causing corruption of the latter. Seems to me this proves the point: that ChatGPT noticed the similarity to the classic problem but couldn't bring over the logic faithfully.