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by serial_dev 942 days ago
Calling her out by name felt a bit harsh within the context of the post. Sure, call out Sundar as he's a public figure, but this lady, never heard of her, never seen her.

He could have made the point by writing "I had this terrible boss who had no idea about anything and...", her name is irrelevant to demonstrate the issue of decline at Google.
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progbits 941 days ago
Maybe it was too much, but one counterpoint: if horrible managers never get called out how are you supposed to know to avoid them / how will they face consequences?

I understand authors frustration, I've experienced the same in the past but could not voice this beyond just some close friends and coworkers (who knew it already anyway), for fear of repercussions. I've since left but of course this person remains, and from what I hear is still as bad.

Outsiders might join that organization unaware of this. Others working with those teams might not know this and can get burned by it.

Was this particular call out justified? I don't know. But I don't think it is inherently bad.

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cavisne 941 days ago
I think the right/ethical move is to identify your organization (ie Flutter) and not name anyone specifically.

I agree completely with the article, but naming someone publicly makes the author seem like they are living in a bubble. Ie in their world the head of their org is a public figure, but hardly anyone knows what Flutter is let alone the org structure.

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caminante 941 days ago
Why would the author single out Flutter if their critique is broader?

It's not a monolith organization. Google re-structured as a conglomerate (Alphabet). They're critiquing culture/values.

Further, if they were to single out Flutter, wouldn't the target be evident?

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CrimsonRain 941 days ago
It is the right thing to do. Flutter team losing someone like Hixie is a big loss to everyone. It is very much possible Tim also left Flutter because of her. This terrible manager has nothing to contribute compared to that. I hope other googlers speak up.
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__float 941 days ago
> It is very much possible Tim also left Flutter because of her.

If not her, then likely someone she managed: https://twitter.com/timsneath/status/1727192477264974273

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