[_8j50]

How would EU be different? It is not a country but as an economy it has similar population as the US, geographical proximity to asia and africa and many well established economic powerhouses. If the US should feel threatned it would be by the EU.

The reason the US does not like China is not because of their economy but their politics and military ambitions. Both China and India have nukes so they can defend their territory against the US just fine. China wants to expand into taiwan, the south china see and even some west china territory India controls and who knows what else.

If you think about it, being wealtheir than the US does not affect the US much so long as the US is still a competing consumer economy and the dollar is the global currency (kind of like english being lingua franca, unless the world trusts China more than the US to pay its bills, RMB will never displace the dollar ) what changes for the US? So long as GDP is the same and the US does not rely on exports for survival it can still maintain the most powerful military. The problem is with China using their wealth to compete with the US military similar to USSR which might lead to a world war 3 situation.

India on the other hand, no doubt will improve its military but I don't see India spending 100B+ a year on military or foreign bases and multiple aircraft carrier strike force groups and all that. The only real conflict opportunity for India are pakistan and China but if India is allied with the US then the US and NATO countries will be a deterrent. Much of why India is neutral on ukraine and won't publicly be closer to the US is a result of economic dependencies such as oil and trade routes. A prosperous india might be able to break free from those shackles and equally compete with EU and the US as well as with China.

[bobobob420]

EU is part of Nato. US gave protection to EU if they protect US against it’s enemies. It all has to do with war. With NATO US can bully anyone and EU can feel protected. All wars are for power. All wars consist of alliances between nations. That is the new world order. Not some /r/conspiracy bs but straight military power and nukes. US plays games with countries to get best outcome as it a nations goals. Right now India will not bend the knee as Modi won’t sell out the country and give in to US. US is playing long game by being friendly with both China and India. China wants territory India has as per all the border skirmishes going on as per the 5 fingers of Mao. Instead of US telling China fuck off they play both sides in hopes of leveraging a situation to get military alliance. Through military alliance they can get the best economic deals, use the country up, and move on to next while adding another powerful ally to their list. You are doing too much analysis and not understanding the mechanisms of power which is simply military strategy and alliances. It is about who your friends are.

[anon291]

> If the US should feel threatned it would be by the EU.

The EU is a society that is winding down.

Americans are sensible and realize the future of innovation and progress lies in countries that have young people.

A bunch of old Europeans are not a threat. Europe is utterly feckless anyway and is unlikely to ever be able to field a large enough army to actually be a threat

[doktrin]

> Europe is utterly feckless anyway and is unlikely to ever be able to field a large enough army to actually be a threat

In a list of American geopolitical concerns, a traditional force on force land invasion wouldn't even make it into the top 100. Swap out "Europe" for any other political entity real or imagined and it would make no difference.

[hef19898]

Most of the EU is NATO, so no idea what you are talking about.

[local_crmdgeon]

I haven't seen it put this way - food for thought.

Reminds me of that attempted mass murder at yet another Winter Festival in France - doesn't make any sense that this would happen again and again by Islamists from a US perspective, but from a "fuck it, we're just giving up" perspective it makes perfect sense.