[toss1]

Soooo long gone are the days of the really compact website

There used to be a contest for best website that would fit into 5k bytes. [0]

Now, the bloat is so bad that there is a serious suggestion to nevermind the website, just make people download the entire cargo load and use it locally, merely to get acceptable performance.

If this does not tell us that the entire framework thing has gone too far, abstracted everything from actual speedy code, larded everything up with so much 'just in case' baggage code, etc... IDK what will.

[0] https://www.the5k.org/