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by xrd 939 days ago
It's a very strongly worded statement. Given how connected Altman is, it's very interesting that Irving would publicly state this.

It's either very courageous and in service to changing silicon valley, or also very manipulative and in service of benefiting his company. It feels like it could be both.

I'm left feeling like there are no angels here. (That's actually funny given how investors love to call themselves angels.)

In the end it appears Altman has looked out for himself above all else, which probably enrages his mentors and investors who don't like to lose control, including pg.

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It's difficult to conceptualize someone who is ruthless, self-interested, and skilled enough to overcome all problems... except your control over them.

Eventually they look at you and decide you're the problem to be overcome.

Might not happen for a while, but inevitably will.

Nicely worded, but with regard to the OpenAI conflict I wonder if you intended this to be about Sam Altman or the topic of (G)AI safety or both?
This is incredibly well put and not something I've seen articulated so clearly before.
Are you talking about Sam or an AGI?
Maybe.
> I'm left feeling like there are no angels here.

That's my feeling after watching all this play out over the last few days. I don't trust any of these people to be good stewards of anything that is supposed to benefit humanity.

He said it in the Tweet that it was because people were attacking people, such as Helen Toner, that he knows to be good people.
You've got a few billionaire teams in silicon valley not unlike say the NFL.

Team DeepMind Team Google Team Meta Team YC Team OpenAI Team Microsoft Team nVIDIA Team VC Team Thiel

There are probably more...