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by saiya-jin 940 days ago
Yes you are probably right, but generally I don't get why AGI needs to be 100% mimicking every aspect of human, just better/faster. Like proverbial skynet can have extreme excellence in one/few aspect of general intelligence but can be muted to almost 0 on everything else, say emotions, yet still be falling into AGI behavior and could take over the world. It doesn't need to simulate gut interactions to get there.

And I think for such an entity we may be closer to emerging than we like, especially if it can traverse whole internet including this comment and make summaries out of it out of reach to mere mortals.
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mewpmewp2 940 days ago
> And I think for such an entity we may be closer to emerging than we like

Why are people talking about it as if it was a bad thing? If I listen to people everyone seems to be dissatisfied with their life as of now, due to work, politics, society and everything else. If AGI was to arrive it would potentially remove those frustrations, right.

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haswell 940 days ago
> If AGI was to arrive it would potentially remove those frustrations, right.

We don’t really know what happens next. There are optimistic outcomes that AGI could enable, but this tech is ultimately being built and distributed by humans currently deeply beholden to the system that everyone seems dissatisfied with.

AGI is not some savior that bursts onto the scene and magically fixes problems. There’s a lot of very messy human work ahead of us if we ever hope to integrate it with society in a way that actually removes those frustrations. And this is not a guaranteed outcome.

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kagakuninja 940 days ago
We are already facing an AI apocalypse with the primitive tech we have now. AGI will only be worse for humanity.

Our current AI tech is built by and for giant corporations and governments (many of which are dystopian). AI will simply accelerate the vast divide between the haves and the have-nots.

AI is being used to increase profits of corporations, with no concern for the rest of us. AI will allow the elites to rule with fewer messy humans in the loop, who may disobey orders or have sympathy for their fellow humans. AI will blur the distinction between truth and lies, enabling dystopian regimes undreamt of by writers like Orwell. AI will provide a vast toolset for criminals as well.

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saiya-jin 940 days ago
We humans are often pretty bad, as agent Smith put 'we are a disease, a virus' if you have purely rational view without any emotions (including being human too and making it personal for example).

If you look at the news, horrible trumps positive big time, any day. It may not reflect actual truth on the ground, but AGI scanning internet knows nothing about reality on the street and everything about trending topics and Fox news headlines.

I guarantee you you can't have an objective viewpoint on mankind from just watching internet go and the one you get will be more negative than reality.

With such conclusions, and capability to collapse our society in a millisecond (it doesn't have to be nukes, it can be subtle subversion of financial and societal system for example), you really want a completely unknown and un-understandable entity to judge all of us?

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mewpmewp2 940 days ago
I would imagine AGI would be statistically intelligent though, to be aware that whatever news has is the most negative outliers.
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