[stuckinhell]

12 October 2023 - Reproducibility trial: 246 biologists get different results from same data sets https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03177-1

I think it's perfectly far to be very very critical of these paper especially because of the impact they can have on society, medicine, and legislation.

We should be very harsh and disciplined.

[freedomben]

GP isn't saying we shouldn't be critical, hard and disciplined. They are saying we shouldn't just lazily dismiss any results as "in rats."

I fully agree with your comment out of context, and I think it actually backs up GP's point about not lazily dismissing stuff as "in rats"

[stuckinhell]

It's not a lazy criticism, if the data is so variable when it comes to various conclusions of the same data set, imagine the difference when it goes from rats to humans!

[freedomben]

I would agree, it definitely isn't always a lazy criticism. But to be unlazy it should include something that expounds on why it might matter. When the entirety of the response to the study is "in rats" that doesn't seem helpful to me