[user_named]

I can't read this because I'm not log in to X. How can I access this?

[ALittleLight]

He says that everyone is nice but Sam Altman, who, though always nice to the author, was mean to friends of the author in ways that are not described.

[intended]

Mean != manipulative / driving wedges.

That said, it feels awkward to even point out these gradations, without knowing the people in question.

I just realized that this is the kind of conversation that preceded forum witch hunts. Or tribe formation :/

[FartyMcFarter]

You missed perhaps the most important part, where Irving says that Altman lied to him on various occasions.

[guiambros]

TLDR: someone who worked at OpenAI relates their firsthand experiences with Sam (not always positive; some lies and deceptive behavior), while strongly vouching for Helen's and Ilya's integrity and character.

My take: this is a counterpoint to a point that is not very relevant. Yes, the ad hominen attacks are despicable, but it should be a debate of their actions, not people's values and character. It's undeniable that the 4 board members didn't demonstrate competence to handle this situation, and very likely didn't fulfill their duty towards the interests of OpenAI's mission (neither the for-profit or the non-profit one). They don't have anyone but themselves to blame for this s*show.

[djbusby]

nitter.net

[user_named]

Thanks. Used the link before you edited.

Some red flags: "she took the board role with reservations because she felt it was important someone like her was on it" (climber way of talking) ".. Despite the thoughtfulness of those involved..." (cliche way of describing people, also climber adjacent)