[ilhuadjkv]

TUV is amazing, ive used it for years to buy every car. Check this out:

1) List the cars in the oldest category (12+ years from memory)

2) Find the most reliable which is a car which meets your needs

3) buy 12+ year old car for $2-3k

4) enjoy reliable cheap motoring. I'm driving a 2005 mercedes right now which cost next to nothing, has done 200k+ miles and feels like it's brand new. Thanks TUV

[parski]

5) Burn a lot of fossil fuels.

[pxtail]

6) Offset burned fossil fuels carbon by reusing already produced car instead of buying new

7) Do not care too much about burning fossil fuel just because rich hypocrites are trying to offload environmental responsibility to the most vulnerable ones

[MetaWhirledPeas]

> Offset burned fossil fuels carbon by reusing already produced car instead of buying new

I'm not against you, but I disagree with this point. It's one that people often make, so I feel the need to comment:

Buying a new car doesn't add another car to the waste bin; buying a new car simply adds one more car to the pool of used cars, thus reducing the price of used cars by an infinitesimal amount, and simultaneously raising the price of new cars an infinitesimal amount. In either scenario the amount of waste is unchanged.

What does lead to more car waste is cheaper new cars, which reduces the value advantage of buying a used car; exactly what we see with consumer electronics. The answer to that problem is to make the cars themselves greener, electric being the best choice at the moment.