[aravindgp]

Exactly my point why would d Angelo want openai to thrive when his own company poe(chatbot) wants compete in the same space. Its conflict of interest which ever way you look. He should resign from board of openai in the first place.

The main point is greg, Ilya can get 50% vote and convince Helen toner to change decision. It's all done then it's 3 to 2 in board of 5 people. Unless greg board membership is reinstated.

Now it's increasingly look like Sam will be heading back into the role of CEO of openai.

[anupamchugh]

There’s lots of conflicts of interests beyond Adam and his Poe AI. Yes, he was building a commerical bot using OpenAI APIs, but Sam was apparently working on other side ventures too. And Sam was the person who invested in Quora during his YC tenure, and must have had a say in bringing him onboard. At this point, the spotlight is on most members of the nonprofit board

[nemo44x]

I wouldn’t hold Sam bringing him over in too high a regard. Fucking each other over is a sport in Silicon Valley. You’re subservient exactly until the moment you sense an opportunity to dominate. It’s just business.

[TerrifiedMouse]

Why did Altman bring him onboard in the first place? What value does he provide? If there is a conflict of interest why didn’t Altman see it?

If this Quora guy is the cause of all this, Altman only has himself to blame since he is the reason the Quora guy is on the board.

[kaoD]

That Quora guy was CTO and VPEng of Facebook so plenty of connections I guess.

Also Quora seems like a good source of question-and-answer data which has probably been key in gpt-instruct training.

[bezier-curve]

"Business" sucks then. This is sociopathic behavior.

[rjbwork]

Yes. That is what is valued in the economic system we have. Absolute cut throat dominance to take as big a chunk of any pie you can get your grubby little fingers into yields the greatest amount of capital.

[bredren]

What has been seen can not be unseen. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=881296

[dendrite9]

Thanks for that. The discussion feels like a look into another world, which I guess is what history is.

[nemo44x]

It’s not just business that works like this. Any type of organization of consequence has sociopaths at the top. It’s the only way to get there. It’s a big game that some people know how to play well and that many people are oblivious to.

[015a]

So? Sam gave Worldcoin early access to OpenAI's proprietary technology. Should Sam step down (oh wait)?

[blackoil]

Worldcoin has no conflict of interest with OpenAI. Unless he gave tech for free causing great loss to the OpenAI it is simply finding an early beta customer.

Also, to fire over something so trivial would be equally if not more stupid. It is like firing Elon because he without open bidding sent Tesla on SpaceX.

[aravindgp]

Early access is different from firing board members or CEO! If Sam was always involved in furthering openai success as far the facts and actions he has taken show. It never showed his action is against openai.

Like all bets are not correct I don't agree with sams worldcoin project at all in the first place.

Giving early access to worldcoin doesn't correlate to firing employees or board or CEO.