[seec]

Firefox was never really good no matter what some tried to imply. It was always a bit crappy, slow, and sometimes ugly. I never understood the passion some people have for it. Sure, it had a lot of extensions but at the time where this was relevant actually using the extension would slow the browser so much it required an overkill computer to be worthwhile.

I doubt Google had any need to pay any kind of attention for Firefox to be bad. They were doing that themselves very well already.

Maybe the problem with Firefox has a lot more to do with their overpaid most likely hippie-feminist person they have as a CEO, no need to search for Google malfeasance when you have THAT type of CEO. Fairly sure she can create political bullshit out of nothing that would bring any org to failure.

I hate the modern world. So hypocrite. We go look for answers on the other side of the planet when it is right there. But you can say it, because it is not politically correct. Seriously kill me already.

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Before Chrome, Firefox had a market share of something like 30%, because it was light years better than IE. And its ability to support extensions was mind blowing. It didn't crash, which was important, it was fast, also important at the time, and was innovative and customizable in ways we take for granted now.

Firefox was dominant and Chrome was the little brother, but then the turns tabled.

[seec]

I know but that was quite a while ago. And it illustrates exactly what I mean. They had 4-5 years lead on Chrome and they still fucked it up. They lost the browser war way before Google got so many dominant web properties. When Chrome got out, Youtube wasn't nearly as big and important, Google Docs was still pretty basic, slow and missing a lot of functionality. Nobody would have switched to Chrome just to use the Google stuff; but people did switch to chrome because it was better. That's it. I was a Mac only person at the time of Firefox release and it wasn't that much better than Internet Explorer for Mac. But Safari was pretty good, in fact at that time Apple was actually making Safari for Windows as well. I preferred it to Firefox, like most people I knew who tried both... Then Chrome forked the Safari open-source code base and improved it.

Firefox lost because it was technically not as good and because of poor leadership. I believe they waste too much ressource on political bullshit, non-working consensus and whatnot.

But most of the defenders are ideological zealots. Which is why I got downvoted because they cannot handle the truth.

Nobody needed to sabotage Firefox, it wasn't very good in the first place.