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by icy_deadposts 940 days ago
To me, this sounds very similar to the type of over-hyped, exaggerated response when someone criticized cryptocurrencies by saying they don't do anything. The response would be:

-I'm literally drinking a coffee I bought with bit coin right now.

-I was able to send large sums of money to my grandma in another country while paying a fraction of the fees going through banks

-It's a stable store of value for people in volatile countries with unstable currency

-It's an investment available to the small timers, normally only the wealthy have these opportunities

-It lets me pay artists for their art directly and bypass the corrupt middlemen

this is a forum coding so i have no idea what any of that biology mumbo jumbo means, but everything you mentiond about chatgtp is conveniently missing a lot of details.

>write some code, it writes some pretty decent code. Is it trivial code? Is it code that shows up on the first page of any search engine with the same terms?

>it gives me a summary. Is it an accurate summary? Is it any better than just reading the first and last section of the report directly?

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Dude I'm talking about it being worth 20 bucks a month (which NFTs are not), not the hype cycle nonsense. Just because you don't understand the scientific applications of protein folding, one of the most important problems in biology, doesn't mean that its mumbo jumbo. Ever heard of folding at home? Man is silicon valley ridiculous sometimes, but since apparently the accomplishments of coders don't count on this coding forum if they're in fields that web developers don't understand let's focus on consumer applications.

In terms of writing code, yeah it's pretty simple code. I'm paying 20 bucks a month not 200k a year. I've found it really useful to dive into open source code bases for papers (just upload the repo and associated paper) - academics write pretty garbage code and even worse documentation. It's able to easily and correcttly extend modules, explain weird uncommented and untyped code (what exactly is xyz data structure? Oh it's a tensor with shape blah where each dimension represents abc value. Great saved me 2 hours of work).

For the summaries - uhh yeah obviously the summaries are accurate and better than reading the first and last sections. Spend the 20 bucks and try it yourself or borrow someone else's account or something. Especially useful if you're dealing with nature papers and similar from journals that refuse to give proper respect for the methods section and shove all the information in a random way into supplementary info. Make a knowledgebase on both and ask it to connect the dots, saves plenty of time. I don't give a damn about the flowery abstract in the first part of the report and the tryhard conclusion in the last part of the report, I want the details.

It's comical that these useless hype bros can convince folks that a genuine computational breakthrough and a pretty solid 20 dollar a month consumer product with actual users must be bunk because the bros are shilling it, but luckily the baker lab doesn't seem to care. Can't wait to play around with all atom so I don't have to model a zinc atom with a guide potential and can just model the heteroatom directly in the functional motif instead! Not sure it'll work for the use case I have in mind until I try it out and print a gene or two of course but I'm glad folks are building these tools to make life easier and let me engineer proteins that were out of budget 3 years ago.