[lajawfe]

I for one thought Karpathy would side with the core researchers and not the corpos. To me, this whole ordeal is a clash between profit motives of Sam vs Non Profit and Safety motives of OpenAI's original charter. I mean didn't HN hate when OpenAI changed their open nature and become completely closed and profit oriented? This could be the healing of the cancer that OpenAI brought to this field to make it closed as a whole.

[tsimionescu]

There are at least three competing perspectives.

One is Sutskever, who believes AI is very dangerous and must be slowed down and closed source (edit: clarified so that it doesn't sound like closed down). He believes this is in line with OpenAI's original charter.

Another is the HN open source crowd who believes AI should be developed quickly and be open to everyone. They believe this is in line with OpenAI's original charter.

Then there is Altman, who agrees that AI should be developed rapidly, but wants it to stay closed so he can directly profit by selling it. He probably believes this is in line with OpenAI's original charter, or at least the most realistic way to achieve it, effective altruism "earn to give" style.

Karpathy may be more amenable to the second perspective, which he may think Altman is closer to achieving.

[dmix]

Now regardless, the new CEO Shear is also very much in the current development of AI is dangerous (not just hypothetically in the future as AGI becomes more plausible), comparable to a nuclear weapon, and wants to slow it down. This will definitely pit researchers into camps and have plenty looking at the door.

https://x.com/amir/status/1726503822925930759?s=46&t=

[tempusalaria]

He spent 5 years at Tesla backing up their self driving lies for money.

[vintermann]

Karpathy is a very agreeable guy and a fantastic educator, and he's very respected by everyone including leader-owners like Altman and Musk, but he doesn't seem like he has very strong opinions one way or another about the hot button issues.

[ShamelessC]

Karpathy is a hybrid. He’s smart, but he clearly enjoys both the money and the attention. This is the guy who defended Elon’s heavily exaggerated self driving claims when the impact was actual human lives.

[TerrifiedMouse]

> This could be the healing of the cancer that OpenAI brought to this field to make it closed as a whole.

I don’t know. The damage might be permanent. Everyone is probably going to be way more careful with what information they release and how they release it. Altman corrupted the entire community with his aggressive corporate push. The happy-go-lucky “look what we created” attitude of the community might be probably gone for good. Now every suit is going to be asking “can we make massive amount of money with this” or “can I spin up a hype train with this”.

[wilg]

But isn't Ilya's thing that open sourcing it is too dangerous?