[karmasimida]

Survive as existing? They will.

But this is a disaster that can't be sugarcoated. Working in an AI company with a doomer as head is ridiculous. It will be like working in a tobacco company advocating for lung cancer awareness.

I don't think the new CEO can do anything to get back trust in record short amount of time. The sam loyalists will leave. The question remain, how is the new CEO going to hire new people, and will he be able to do so fast enough, and the ones who remain will accept the company that is a drastically different.

[peanuty1]

Surely the employees knew before joining that OpenAI is a non-profit aiming to develop safe AGI?

[alexgartrell]

OpenAI's recruiting pitch was 5-10+ million/year in the form of equity. The structure of the grants is super weird by traditional big-company standards, but it was plausible enough that you could squint and call it the same. I'd posit that many of the people jumping to OpenAI are doing it for the cash and not the mission.

https://the-decoder.com/openai-lures-googles-top-ai-research....

[sgift]

They thought so. Now, they know that instead they work for one aiming to satisfy the ego of a specific group of people - same as everywhere else.

[bottlepalm]

Ah yes you're either a doomer or e/acc. Pick an extreme. Everything must be polarized.

[astrange]

There's a character in HPMOR named after the new CEO.

(That's the religious text of the anti-AI cult that founded OpenAI. It's in the form of a very long Harry Potter fanfic.)

[tempusalaria]

Imagine how bad a reputation EA would have if the general public knew about HPMOR

[xvector]

Even HP fanfiction lovers HATED HPMOR. It had a clowny reputation

It is wild to see how closely connected the web is though. Yudkowsky, Shear, and Sutskever. The EA movement today controls a staggering amount of power.

[astrange]

Here's the new CEO expressing the common EA belief that (theoretical world ending) AI is worse than the Nazis, because once you show them a thought experiment that might possibly true they're completely incapable of not believing in it.

https://x.com/eshear/status/1664375903223427072?s=46

[FeepingCreature]

Sorry, which character are you talking about? (Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions.)

[astrange]

The one with the same name as the new CEO. Pretty straightforward.

> Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions.

That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post. It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

[FeepingCreature]

Oh hey there he is, cool. I had a typo in my search, I think.

> That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post.

Yes, almost as if "Lesswrong is a community blog dedicated to refining the art of human rationality."

> It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

I don't think anybody either asked somebody to, or actually did, donate all their money. As to "joining a cult group house polycule", to my knowledge that's just SF. There's certainly nothing in the Sequences about how you have to join a cult group house polycule. To be honest, I consider all the people who joined cult group house polycules, whose existence I don't deny, to have a preexisting cult group house polycule situational condition. (Living in San Francisco, that is.)

[avalys]

“The Sequences”? Yes, this doesn’t sound like a quasi-religious cult at all…

[astrange]

Well, Berkeley isn't exactly San Francisco, but joining cults is all those people get up to there. Some are Buddhist, some are Leverage, some are Lesswrong.

The most recent case was notably in the Bahamas though.

[whatshisface]

Is Chat GPT writing this whole dialogue?