[paulddraper]

I'm not a believer in "AI safety."

But if you do believe, I don't see how this a "victory."

OpenAI is now existentially at risk. Even if it does survive it will very likely lose its dominance to a non-"AI safety" commercial endeavor.

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Classic "biting the hand that feeds you" https://youtu.be/Lg2dqFCU67Q?si=TWX8slGW_8hLdgQu&t=35

[yeck]

By that do you mean that you believe AI is safe by default? Or that AI safety is not possible?

[paulddraper]

I mean that "AI Safety" is (1) nebulous and (2) impossible.

Encryption can be used for good things and bad things. And yet no one is talking about "encryption safety."

[yeck]

> And yet no one is talking about "encryption safety

Okay, you are getting me off topic, but this is totally not the case. Hasn't governments been especially interesting in dealing with encryption lately? UK or EU (can't remember which) being most recently raising the pitchforks.

Anyway, the more important thing for me to point out is that AI is anticipated to possess exponential properties that technology like encryption does not have. Encryption is predictable while AI is not.

Edit: fixed typo

[paulddraper]

> Hasn't governments been especially interesting in dealing with encryption lately?

Fair enough :)

People have been talking about it, and it's a similarly bad idea.

> Encryption is predictable while AI is not.

Banking info vs child porn is pretty divergent.

[yeck]

They are both just data being made hard to read, though. You could pretty much sum up the "risks" of encryption as: you want to read some data that someone else didn't want you to read. Which means you might fail to detect something, or fail to prove something as easily as if you could read that data. While we could enumerate specific examples of scenarios that fit the generalization, I think we are talking about something pretty narrow. It is also not really a new problem. Historically communication has been impossible to snoop on at scale, and encryption exists to maintain a semblance of past privacy in the present.

Lol not sure where I want to take this and it's getting pretty late...